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hi there
i have this...idea...o modified version of laying and recovering loss in cycles...i will try to explain it in a few words so anyone who wants to help me develop a trigger for it could understand what i want.
i will explain it with example.
in HiLo the 2 Card Run lay price is aprox. 2 in the first round. let`s say i have a 100$ initial funds and i want to lay (win) 4$ each game. in other words the starting default laying bet is 4.
(starting funds = 100$
 first lay stake = 4$ at laying price of 2
 funds after matched bet = 96$
 winning bet -> new funds = 104$
 lay stake = 4$ at laying price of 2
 funds after matched bet = 100$
 winning bet -> new funds = 108$)
now if all the bets could be winners then it will be perfect, but since this is out of question i want to recover the loss and the profit that would have been if the bets were winners in 2 cycles.
(starting funds = 108$
 lay stake = 4$ at laying price of 2
 funds after matched bet = 104$
 losing bet -> new funds = 104$ "if won new funds = 112$")
at this stage, if standard laying and recovering loss in cycles strategy would have been applied ii had to recover 4$ in 2 cycles (2$+2$), but i want to recover the loss and the profit that would have been 2 winning hands from the losing bet (this means after the cycles i will have 120$ new funds).
(starting funds = 104$
 lay stake = 8$ at laying price of 2
 funds after matched bet = 96$
 winning bet -> new funds = 112$
 lay stake = 8$ at laying price of 2
 funds after matched bet = 104$
 winning bet -> new funds = 120$)
the formula for calculating the laying bet after losing could be the following:
[new_funds_after_last_win - remaining_funds_after_previous_lose + default_laying_stake * (number_of_games_since_cycles_started + 2)] / 2.
this formula does not apply after the first cycle winning bet, it aplies after 2 consecutive wins of the cycle. i will try to make an elaborate example so it would be easier to understand how this works (how the trigger should work).

Starting funds = 100$
Default laying stake = 4$
Market = 2 card run in the first round
Lay price = 2
Remaining funds after matched bet = 96$ - if won new funds = 104$
                  - if lost new funds = 96$

From this point my example will be with lost matched bet. Now the trigger should calculate the new laying stake using the formula.
[100-96+4*(1+2)]/2=8
This means that the 2 next bet should have laying stake of 8 so after the cycle finnishes in the funds are to be as it no bet have been lost (having 112$) because 3 winning matched laying bets at stake of 4 would lead to a 12$ profit.

New funds = 96$
Laying stake = 8$
Market = 2 card run in the first round
Lay price = 2
Remaining funds after matched bet = 88$ - if won new funds = 104$ and the bet should repeat in the next game, after that the laying stake reseting to the initial default (4$).
                  - if lost new funds = 88$

From this point my example will be with lost matched bet. Now the trigger should calculate the new laying stake using the formula.
[100-88+4*(2+2)]/2=14
This means that the 2 next bet should have laying stake of 14 so after the cycle finnishes in the funds are to be as it no bet have been lost (having 116$) because 4 winning matched laying bets at stake of 4 would lead to a 16$ profit.

New funds = 88$
Laying stake = 14$
Market = 2 card run in the first round
Lay price = 2
Remaining funds after matched bet = 74$ - if won new funds = 102$ and the bet should repeat in the next game, after that the laying stake reseting to the initial default (4$).
                  - if lost new funds = 74$

At this point in my example will be a winning matched bet. Now the trigger should repeat the bet in the next game.

New funds = 102$
Laying stake = 14$
Market = 2 card run in the first round
Lay price = 2
Remaining funds after matched bet = 88$ - if won new funds = 116$ and the laying stake resets to the initial default (4$).
                  - if lost new funds = 88$

At this point the matched bet will be lost. Now the trigger should calculate the new laying stake using the formula.
[100-88+4*(4+2)]/2=18
This means that the 2 next bet should have laying stake of 18 so after the cycle finnishes in the funds are to be as it no bet have been lost (having 124$) because 6 winning matched laying bets at stake of 4 would lead to a 24$ profit.

New funds = 88$
Laying stake = 18$
Market = 2 card run in the first round
Lay price = 2
Remaining funds after matched bet = 70$ - if won new funds = 106$ and the bet should repeat in the next game, after that the laying stake reseting to the initial default (4$).
                  - if lost new funds = 70$

From this point there will be 2 winning matched bets and the cycle will finnish, returning to the default laying bet.

if someone wants to help me i would be in his debt like...forever :).
cheers and...thank you

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Re: laying and recovering loss + potential profit in cycles
« Reply #1 on: 13 Mar 2010, 13:54 »
Hi,
The lay price of "2 Card Run" in the first round is 2.07, therefore the potential loss from a bet would be 4.28, not 4.0.

Nevertheless making triggers for this staking plan is feasible, I will create an example and let you know.
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Re: laying and recovering loss + potential profit in cycles
« Reply #3 on: 19 Mar 2010, 07:06 »
thank u verry much for this...i owe u one :)

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Re: laying and recovering loss + potential profit in cycles
« Reply #4 on: 08 Apr 2010, 19:44 »
I tried this and it worked using 2 cycles, I lost 1 game and then won the next 2, recovered the loss and then also gained my profit from all 3 bets instead of 2. Thumbs up

The only problem I had was I changed the cycle to 3. It increased my stake for 2 rounds but then it went back to the original stake. How do I change it so it spreads the loss over 3 rounds? When I changed the cycle to 3 the bet amount decreased  as expected but it reverted back to the original after 2 games.

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Re: laying and recovering loss + potential profit in cycles
« Reply #5 on: 01 May 2010, 21:14 »
But how it works ? I loaded trigger into x-feeder, went to HiLo Standard, set Auto Trading and Test Mode to ON and pressed Start button, but nothing happen. Why ?

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Re: laying and recovering loss + potential profit in cycles
« Reply #6 on: 27 Aug 2010, 11:42 »
sorry, I want to try this trigger, but it not to leave, no work, because?
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hi best rogerds
daniele

 

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