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A few questions
« on: Thu, 07 July, 2011, 15:54 »
Can someone shed some light on a few questions regarding MFP, please?

1)In the 'price' field, what is the difference between 'best' and 'back_price'?

2) I have a set of triggers that work on different markets I load. e.g. I load horse races, soccer matches, tennis, nba etc.....

All is working fine, except the triggers that work in horse races rely on 'previous triggered event outcome is settled'

This means obviously that when a soccer trigger has fired, the horse race trigger won't do anything untill the soccer trigger is settled. How to solve this, please?


3) You can set the type of market you want every trigger to work, e.g. All markets, Horse races, soccer, tennis etc....

Has anyone succesfully tried selecting 'NONRACES'???

It didn't work for me, but could be very helpful if it did, so that trigger worked on every market except Horse races.

Your input is much appreciated, thank you.


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Re: A few questions
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 07 July, 2011, 17:13 »
hi
answer 1 for now
best is the best price on offer by betfair, but if this has gone then you will be matched at the next best and so on, in other words you WILL be matched at any odds avialable as close to your set odds.
back price is the current odds, but if they change the wrong way as the bot sends the bet out , then you get no match.


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Re: A few questions
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 07 July, 2011, 18:38 »
hi
answer 1 for now
best is the best price on offer by betfair, but if this has gone then you will be matched at the next best and so on, in other words you WILL be matched at any odds avialable as close to your set odds.
back price is the current odds, but if they change the wrong way as the bot sends the bet out , then you get no match.


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Thanks McBee for the swift respons to Q1. I already knew the answer to that one since I used triggers a few months ago using 'Best' and 'back or lay_price', but was looking for confirmation . Appreciate it!

Let's see if we can solve Q2 and Q3 too, Anyone? Thanks in advance...

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Re: A few questions
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 07 July, 2011, 23:09 »
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All is working fine, except the triggers that work in horse races rely on 'previous triggered event outcome is settled'

This means obviously that when a soccer trigger has fired, the horse race trigger won't do anything untill the soccer trigger is settled. How to solve this, please?
Unfortunately you have to clone triggers and set them to fire on the separate sports. Because the execution flag is set for each trigger.

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3) You can set the type of market you want every trigger to work, e.g. All markets, Horse races, soccer, tennis etc....

Has anyone succesfully tried selecting 'NONRACES'
Unfortunately not. You may try to add the following condition:
AND Trigger Expression market_parent_id is not equal to 13
13 is the Horse Racing - Today's card id.
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Re: A few questions
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 12 July, 2011, 17:54 »
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AND Trigger Expression market_parent_id is not equal to 13
13 is the Horse Racing - Today's card id.

This is a great idea, Tim, thanks!

Where can I find the other market_parent_id numbers, please?

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Re: A few questions
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6423 - American Football
61420 - Australian Rules
7511 - Baseball
7522 - Basketball
6 - Boxing
4 - Cricket
3145419 - Cross Sport Accumulators
11 - Cycling
3503 - Darts
6231 - Financial Bets
3088925 - Fishing
2152880 - Gaelic Games
3 - Golf
4339 - Greyhound Racing
15 - Greyhound - Todays Card
7 - Horse Racing
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7524 - Ice Hockey
26420387 - Mixed Martial Arts
8 - Motor Sport
26686903 - Olympics 2012
5412697 - Pelota
2378961 - Politics
1477 - Rugby League
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1 - Soccer
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Re: A few questions
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 23 October, 2011, 20:35 »
This is (almost) exactly what I was looking for  :)

However what I need are actually the parent_id's for the different football leagues, e.g. English Premier League, German Bundesliga, Italian Serie A, etc. and also just for the countries (if available). Do they exist?

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Re: A few questions
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 23 October, 2011, 21:33 »
This won't work for soccer as the parent_id doesn't give you the league nor country.

If for example you have:

Soccer - Fixtures
             |
              ------Fixtures 23 October
                               |
                                --------- CF America v Guadalajara
                                                        |
                                                         ---------- Over/Under 1.5 Goals

Then each step has a different market id, so the parent_id for Over/Under would be CF America v Guadalajara etc.

What you (and I) want will be in v7. In the mean time perhaps this will be helpful for you:

http://community.welldonesoft.com/triggered-betting-10/autoload-non-standard-markets/

If it is let me know as I have an updated version with a few modifications.                             
                           

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Re: A few questions
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 24 October, 2011, 10:30 »
Thank you for the link, but unfortunately this is not what I'm looking for.

My strategies are based on probabilities and statistics trying to gain a mathematical advantage playing against all these super-efficient bots. For example, French teams are low scoring which means that I would wish to execute the trigger before the kick off, but in Dutch games which tend to score a lot I would prefer to enter the market a little bit later after there have been a few goals (or not).

Each league performs differently and I don't think that applying one standard rule for all of them is very efficient. Manually my strategies work quite well but I'm tired of processing the bets per hand.

What I'm looking for is a way to recognise the league (e.g. Bundesliga, Premier League, etc.) or country (Germany, England, etc.) for setting conditions.

Names are not really an option as there are quite a few "Arsenals" in the world and many other repetitions.

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Re: A few questions
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 24 October, 2011, 13:23 »
Well, with this little program I made it can get the markets from the "Soccer" root, and not "Soccer - Fixtures", which means that in the Market name you will find all the available information, like this:

Soccer / Dutch Soccer / Dutch Jupiler League / Fixtures 24 October / Volendam v AGOVV / Correct Score

etc.
etc.

Now in the conditions field in your trigger you can set:

AND Market´s Name contains Dutch Soccer

or you can even differentiate between Eredivisie and Jupiler league for example.


Anyway, this is how I use it.