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Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« on: Fri, 22 June, 2012, 20:49 »
Hi Guys,

Found marketfeeder after an extensive search of a lot of API software, I was advised plus thought myself that my strategy would be able to be configured best (out of software choices) using the trigger system here.

After watching most of the vids, reading the help and manual I'm still lost. I have coded in basic C/C++, am very comfortable in excel and can write/edit basic VB. I considered myself pretty logical from a programming standpoint but can't seem to grasp a full understanding of using triggers. It doesn't seem very intuitive to me but maybe it is and i'm just totally missing the concept.

Anyway, looking for some help, Been waiting on a reply from support but have a feeling I'll be waiting on that for a while.

My system/strategy is not complex imo, I'm not interested in trading, dutching, laying, hedging or any other derivative of sports betting. All i'm interested in is backing.

I want to bet in-running on all UK/IRE races.
When it comes to each race I want to first rank each runner based on their bfsp. Then I want to set criteria based on the lenght of the race and the number of runners so that MF knows how many of the runners (based on their rank from above) i want to focus on. once this is achieved the last condition will be to look for prices based on the chosen runners in-running price in relation to their bfsp.

Simple example: I have configured MF so that when there are 6 runners in a 6f race i want to focus on the first and second fav according to bfsp (I want to have the option to change though so each horse needs a callable rank, in a 15 horse race i need the option to call the 15th fav just as much as the 1st fav).
I then pre configure betting criteria, so that in the 6 horse race example MF will continually check the two horses in-running price, compare it to their bfsp and if it meets my requirements place my bet. Once my bet is placed then no more "work" on that selection is needed.

I appreciate that this is a help section and people aren't going to build my system for me so i have simplified it greatly, ie if i can get the basic structure together i can then tweak on my own.

If there are any reliable people that could help build it I'll entertain a payment option (and obv re-post in the correct area).

Sorry for the TL:DR

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Re: Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 22 June, 2012, 22:54 »
Rest assured, there is no other commercial software that could meet your requirement.  However, it is extremely comprehensive and therefore, quite complex.

Your best approach is to code a few simple triggers, look at the example triggers on the website and sooner or later it will all fall into place.  The use of triggers I find to be very logical.  You select a required action that you want to occur under defined conditions and another action....  and so on.   The individual triggers should have a logical progression,  but most will operate correctly wherever they are placed in the sequence.  

Study the list of variables in detail and you will soon see which ones to employ in your strategy.

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Re: Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 23 June, 2012, 05:33 »
hi
this condition gives what you need for the pre off rank to check.
last_order
 integer
 The order of the selection before the off. 1 stands for the favourite, 2 - for the second favourite and so on.
as for the length of the race you could have this as a starting set of triggers and add your conditions to the betting trigger.
http://marketfeeder.co.uk/solutions/miscelaneous-betting/race-length/

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Re: Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 23 June, 2012, 11:31 »
Thanks guys!

So basically it's just a case of me needing to get my head around it properly, like most of my vague plan is actually possible?

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Re: Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 23 June, 2012, 11:49 »
hi
the problem is, if you get somebody to create a trigger for you, you will never learn to put your idea's into trigger's.
it is fun and sometimes hard brain work, trying to put idea's into triggers.
but when you have completed the trigger you will understand how it works and can tweak it to perfection.
you will get all the help that you need, if you try in the first place to put your idea into a trigger, then ask for some help.

good luck

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Re: Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 23 June, 2012, 15:38 »
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the problem is, if you get somebody to create a trigger for you, you will never learn to put your idea's into trigger's.
it is fun and sometimes hard brain work, trying to put idea's into triggers.
but when you have completed the trigger you will understand how it works and can tweak it to perfection.
you will get all the help that you need, if you try in the first place to put your idea into a trigger, then ask for some help.

good luck

mcbee

Totally agree mate,

My problem is just getting a start on it really. like if you ask me to do something in excel/VB i can normally think of a couple of different routes to take and can normally build it in my head before i ever do in reality.

With MF it's more like I know the problem in and out but can't picture it at all in terms of triggers and can't get a start on it practically due to this.

I think the above is clear, its hard to explain really.

I'll try and push on anyway, I do however have a feeling this thread may end up a bit longer than it is now ;)

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Re: Should be simple - Can't get my head around it
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 23 June, 2012, 16:41 »
hi
you said
I'll try and push on anyway, I do however have a feeling this thread may end up a bit longer than it is now
This is what a forum is about, helping each other and on the way we learn from helping each other, you been new could come up with a new aproach with the triggers that we have not seen or forgotten.
when i started with mfp bot, i new NOTHING about excel, i would'nt even try using it.
BUT i did use openoffice spreadsheet a little as in basic knowllege.
so i started by downloading the trigger examples and looked how they worked, played about with the settings and added triggers, away you go, you learn quicker this way.

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