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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #45 on: 21 May 2014, 21:00 »
Thanks once again Mark,

I will try that latest suggestion but will revert to r_ticks as that can be incorporated as well.

What I'm not sure of how much this will effect my predictions.  I can calculate a lower BSP but I'm not sure whether the fact that some bets won't be placed will even itself out.  Hopefully it will.

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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #46 on: 21 May 2014, 21:28 »
And of course not forgetting that I need the winplace_actual_sp*0.90 in some cases!

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« Reply #47 on: 02 Jun 2014, 13:48 »
Hi again Guys,

After extensive trialling I am pleased that the trigger pretty much executes correctly (there are a few anomalies that can't be explained but I'll live with them).

However, the fact that the bet sometimes gets placed at odds considerably lower than BSP is effecting the P/L outcome I would expect.

Instead of waiting for the actual race to go inplay is it possible to ask the bot to place the bet 10 seconds before the due off time if it matches my initial criteria? If so, what is the coding that i should use?

Ideally, I would want it to be 10 seconds before the actual off time but i assume it doesn't know that. 

Thanks once again,

Rob


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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #48 on: 02 Jun 2014, 14:10 »
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All your initial criteria compare the BSP to the price ranges you have set. What your asking is something like:
check selections back price 10 secs before the off
if it is within the set range, make a back bet

You can try replacing all actual_sp and winplace_actual_sp with back_price and winplace_back_price.
market status: idle
extra condition: markets minutes before the off is between 0.16 and 0.25
Action: back Option: match at SP
Price: back_price

To be honest it is probably a complete re-write of the trigger and it might be better for you to put your request in here: http://community.welldonesoft.com/make-me-a-trigger!/  
  
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« Reply #49 on: 02 Jun 2014, 15:01 »
As usual, brilliant MarkV,

Before we go down that road, can you or anyone answer if I'm likely to get more bets laid in the price ranges that I have selected?

I don't want to cause more work just to realize that the trigger doesn't achieve my goals.

Are much does the BSP move just before the off? Compared just after the off?

Thanks Mark,

KR

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« Reply #50 on: 02 Jun 2014, 17:06 »
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The BSP is known only when the market turns in-play. There are some indicators you can use to help gauge what the BSP will be before the market turns in-play:
near_sp
far_sp
back_price

If you want to check some data yourself you can use Time Machine data, a third part data source such as Fracsoft, or have a look at some data Betfair provide. http://www.betfairpromo.com/betfairsp/prices/

In terms of the trigger, if you have unmatched bets just before the off and select match at SP, the unmatched bets will be matched at the BSP when the market turns in-play.

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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #51 on: 02 Jun 2014, 18:15 »


In terms of the trigger, if you have unmatched bets just before the off and select match at SP, the unmatched bets will be matched at the BSP when the market turns in-play.



MarkV,

Are you saying that the trigger can be adjusted so that it will place the bet at BSP when the market turns in-play?  It seems too good to be true but isn't that exactly what I want?.

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« Reply #52 on: 02 Jun 2014, 18:33 »
Hi
Well I'm not sure exactly what you want, but if you look at the attached screenshot, the unmatched back bet at a price of 500 before the off will be matched at BSP as soon as the market turns in-play.
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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #53 on: 02 Jun 2014, 20:28 »
Yeah, I'm sorry MarkV, I'm not very good at explaining.

I want to place a bet (either Win or Placed) within certain BSP ranges but I want that bet to be placed at that BSP and no lower.

At the moment, once the trigger conditions are met, the bet is placed but the SP it is being placed on is sometimes lower (sometimes considerably lower, i.e. 30%) which screws the P/L on the whole system.

You've already given me a fix so that the bet isn't placed beyond 10% lower perhaps that is my only option.

KR

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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #54 on: 03 Jun 2014, 00:09 »
Hi
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I want to place a bet (either Win or Placed) within certain BSP ranges but I want that bet to be placed at that BSP and no lower.
Covered in reply#40
change the price field in all the triggers from back_price to actual_sp
in reality you will have quite a few unmatched bets, but those that are matched will be at BSP and no lower.

or

re-write the trigger as mentioned earlier to place the bets just before the scheduled start of the race - if unmatched at inplay, take SP. Your ranges will need to be changed from actual_sp to your choice of near_sp, far_sp, or back_price, or any combination of these.
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« Reply #55 on: 14 Jun 2014, 14:10 »
Hi MarkV,

I've taken out the bet on winner part of the trigger and I now want to place 5% of the post on each place bet but it has stopped laying bets.  Would you kindly check that I haven't done something stupid please.

Thanks

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« Reply #56 on: 14 Jun 2014, 17:05 »
Hi
I tested the trigger and it works OK, but with far fewer bets due to the additional ranges you have added. The selections BSP must meet both the original and your new ranges conditions for the trigger to fire.

The best way to see what is or isn't happening, is to check the trigger log just at the point of the market turning in-play. This is when the actual_sp variable has a value and the trigger should execute if all the conditions are met. If you read through each log entry you should see if the actual_sp or winplace_actual_sp meets all the conditions.

Just to mention, the trigger still requires Win and Place markets to be monitored even though you are betting just in the Place market.
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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #57 on: 16 Jun 2014, 19:17 »
Thanks MarkV,

I have only put the Place bets into my markets so perhaps that's why it's not triggering.

I'll try that.

Thanks once again

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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #58 on: 19 Jun 2014, 08:03 »
Hi MarkV,

It's the Pain in the butt again.

The trigger is now working great, thank you.  I wasn't loading the Win bets into My markets.

As you know, at the moment my bets are accumulative.  Would you kindly rewrite the attached Trigger so that the bet only places a constant amount.  In the first instant please make it £5 each for a win bet and a place bet.

I will then amend all the other triggers in my other ranges.

Also, is it possible to have more than one trigger running on one computer with one licence?

Kind regards

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Re: New Trigger
« Reply #59 on: 19 Jun 2014, 16:58 »
As you know, at the moment my bets are accumulative.  Would you kindly rewrite the attached Trigger so that the bet only places a constant amount.  In the first instant please make it £5 each for a win bet and a place bet.

I will then amend all the other triggers in my other ranges.

Also, is it possible to have more than one trigger running on one computer with one licence?
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You did not attach your trigger file?

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