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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #15 on: 11 Feb 2013, 18:30 »
Not bad - you are learning fast - well done.

I think the 2 greenup triggers will need testing.

1st goal in the match:
selection's trigger expression market_score1+market_score2 is greater than 0

90 seconds after suspension:
market's minutes since last suspension is greater than 1.50
but you can not rely on this (red cards/penalty given/loss of pictures at betfair etc)

In OU markets for a value price you should use back or lay book %
market's lay book % is greater than 95
markets back book % is less than 105 or whatever % you are happy with

You can check the spread between back and lay prices is reasonable
selection's trigger expression g_ticks(back_price, lay_price) is less than 6

I am writing a general note to you which I will post soon. Then I will look some more at this tomorrow. Keep testing and look at the trigger logs if it does not do things right.
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #16 on: 11 Feb 2013, 18:51 »
Hi
It is more difficult if you give little bits of what you want to do and then add things on later. This means the original concept will change. It is always best to write out exactly what you want to do first and then it is much easier to translate that to a trigger.

What I know now is:

Before start of game
Back 0-0
Lay Over 2.5

If no goal after 6 minutes inplay
Lay 0-0 for 25% profit on 0-0, 0% profit on all other selections in that market
Distribute loss in Over 2.5

If goal before 6 minutes inplay
Greenup Over 2.5 90 seconds after goal

15 minutes inplay
Greenup 0-0 for 50% of profit (I don’t know how to do this (yet))

25 minutes inplay
Greenup 0-0 completely


So if you do not have any more surprises (of course we can make changes, but small ones please!), I think the whole concept of the trigger needs to change. It was started based on just laying 0-0. The OU 2.5 market needs to be linked to the CS market and I think the greenups will interfere with each other.

I think this trigger can be adapted for what you are wanting to do (and I think you may have looked at this already): http://marketfeeder.co.uk/solutions/miscelaneous-betting/soccer-correct-score-match/
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #17 on: 11 Feb 2013, 19:34 »
Hi and thanks again
I think its not going to be more surprise. :). The trigegr with all this improves are finish .The problem with this trigger its that i  only have one idea and when i was doing the trigger i was thinking about if was possible to improve this idea and  talk a lot about that  with my brother sergio, because we dont have job and maybe with this we can generate some money, so we are trying to think that hard....
Before start of game
Back 0-0
Lay Over 2.5
*** here will be back over 2.5 or lay under 2.5 its the same. The thing here its there is a goal, we can minimize lost with a green up in this market.

If no goal after 6 minutes inplay
Lay 0-0 for 25% profit on 0-0, 0% profit on all other selections in that market
Distribute loss in Over 2.5
here will be 100% of the profit in 0-0 less 0.5 pound that  you put me in the last trigger. Distribuite loss in  the market over/under 2.5 will be OK. I think will be only a few clicks.

 everything Yes
If goal before 6 minutes inplay
Greenup Over 2.5 90 seconds after goal

15 minutes inplay
Greenup 0-0 for 50% of profit (I don’t know how to do this (yet))

25 minutes inplay
Greenup 0-0 completely


Now i wait for the trigger or what i must do...Its my first week with the software and i am very happy. Now i have 2 strategies more but, until i dont try to finish  the trigger with all the ideas i dont post.

I hope this trigger can be good for everyone using the software

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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #18 on: 12 Feb 2013, 12:54 »
Hi
Attached is the trigger so far. I have made quite a few changes as you will see. I tested it in one match and it seems to work OK, but the 2 green-ups do not fire because the selections are already all green. The log says: None of the selections qualify for a green up.

In the 2.5 trigger, you will need to put the amount you want in. At the moment it is set to the default lay amount from settings.

So looking for some help from anyone:
How to distribute the profit on 0-0 as shown in the picture in 2 stages: 50% at 15 minutes since the off and the remainder at 25 minutes since the off

I will modify the locator template and will post it soon.
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #19 on: 12 Feb 2013, 13:17 »
Hi MarkV
There is one thing that i dont understand. In the first trigger we have already everything was green  because we put al the winning in the 0-0 less 0,50$ that we put in in the rest, and after 20 minutes the trigger did the green up. Now the trigger dont do any green up.........
But if now i only do  one green up will be fine...


In the 2.5 trigger, for example if i want to probe with 20 pounds, change the default laya for 20 and thats all

Thanks

If the green up doesnt work i will puto only one and try to do the profit in the 20 minute, and must work....


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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #20 on: 12 Feb 2013, 13:32 »
Market Locator file for this trigger attached
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #21 on: 12 Feb 2013, 13:34 »
Hi MarkV
There is one thing that i dont understand. In the first trigger we have already everything was green  because we put al the winning in the 0-0 less 0,50$ that we put in in the rest, and after 20 minutes the trigger did the green up. Now the trigger dont do any green up.........
But if now i only do  one green up will be fine...


In the 2.5 trigger, for example if i want to probe with 20 pounds, change the default laya for 20 and thats all

Thanks

If the green up doesnt work i will puto only one and try to do the profit in the 20 minute, and must work....


Ok I will look at it
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #22 on: 12 Feb 2013, 14:28 »
I think it should be distribute profit. I have changed the trigger. Please test it and let me know how it goes.
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #23 on: 12 Feb 2013, 14:57 »
Ok i am going to probe the trigegr without change nothing
I will tell you something when i tested. i hope everything goes well now
Thanks for be so helpful/

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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #24 on: 12 Feb 2013, 15:27 »
Distribute profit works OK. You must have allow small bets switched on in the settings.
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #25 on: 12 Feb 2013, 16:16 »
So now we can say the trigger its finish :)
I will chech this afternoon with the champion league and will check if work the under/over 2.5 and how mmuch money lost if there its no goal in the first 5 minutes and the strategy can be good or not...
Thanks i will tell you something after the math

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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #26 on: 12 Feb 2013, 21:45 »
Bad news Markv
i probe the trigger in the champion league. The juventus score in the minute 3 so i lost my first trigger of 0-0 but i was able to lost less thanks to the market under/ over but the trigegr don do the green up.
In the other match util minut 10 there wasnt any gol so there did well and distribuite the lost between markets. So i think that something has happend when juventus score.

Now i dont now how to continu that. 20.52 correct. then here why don do in the other match the green up. here wait 20 minutes but that its not in the trigger under/ over. i dont undertand nothing...
Thanks MarkV

The log
20:43:03      Going to BACK € 20.00 at 10.00 on selection '0 - 0'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "Backing on 0 - 0
20:43:03   Going to BACK € 20.00 at 10.50 on selection '0 - 0'. Bet is matched. If unmatched, bet will be kept at In-Play. The bet was placed by Trigger "Backing on 0 - 0
20:43:06   Going to LAY € 20.00 at 1.81 on selection 'Under 2.5 Goals'. Bet is matched. If unmatched, bet will be kept at In-Play. The bet was placed by Trigger "Laying on Under 2.5".
20:43:10   Going to LAY € 20.00 at 1.88 on selection 'Under 2.5 Goals'. Bet is matched. If unmatched, bet will be kept at In-Play. The bet was placed by Trigger "Laying on Under 2.5".
20:52:01   Going to BACK € 21.01 at 1.79 on selection 'Under 2.5 Goals'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "no goal distribuite lost".

        UNTIL HERE CORRECT
21:06:00   Going to LAY € 2.44 at 9.00 on selection '0 - 1'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "Distribute profit after 20 minutes".
21:07:16   Going to LAY € 5.36 at 1.57 on selection 'Over 2.5 Goals'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "Distribute profit after 20 minutes".
21:07:16   Going to LAY € 3.02 at 2.78 on selection 'Under 2.5 Goals'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "Distribute profit after 20 minutes".
21:07:17   Going to LAY € 14.96 at 9.00 on selection '0 - 1'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "Distribute profit after 20 minutes".
21:28:50   Going to BACK € 23.23 at 1.92 on selection 'Under 2.5 Goals'. Bet is matched. The bet was placed by Trigger "no goal distribuite lost

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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #27 on: 12 Feb 2013, 22:18 »
Hi
The better log to look at is the trigger logs, but they will be very long.

I think I know what the problem was. I have changed one condition from greenup 2.5
Edited trigger attached, please try it again in test mode.
For testing the trigger operation you can just add some markets manually so you don't have to wait for volume 10000.

I will be offline for a couple of days - I think you can try to sort any problems yourself, but if you are stuck just ask on the forum, I'm sure someone will help you.
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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #28 on: 12 Feb 2013, 23:49 »
Ok markV
Enjoy this days. I will try to put in practise the trigger. I am not going to rest until have everything ok :)
Thanks and i will tell you some small changes in 3 days ;D.But dont worry are very small.....

Thanks and enjoy.See you soon

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Re: One thing so easy for answer
« Reply #29 on: 14 Feb 2013, 23:36 »
Hi the trigger need a small change. dont worry its so small. :D
I was thinking about after a back do a lay bet 6 minutes later with at least 2 ticks less that the back bet taht i did before and i think that its better do other thing. the thing its after do a back bet in the 0-0, do a lay bet with the same aumont but whit 2 ticks less.Now i dont have to wait 6 minutes and i think will be better for the trigger.
Need help for do it,. I am trying to change the trigegr myself but i dont know.

Thanks

pd1

 

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