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Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« on: 02 Sep 2011, 01:06 »
Hi.

I can't find any solution on my problem to add back bets once a specific card has come out in past. I have read through the entire help file without finding any solution to the problem. I hope some one here have any ides of how to make it work.


Example:

Let's say that i back card 6 or further if the card in round 2 comes out as number 6 or 10. When the card in round 3 comes out i want to add money to my back bet of card 6 or further if the back odds are equal or more to the previous back bet i made in round 2.

Then finally i want to green out or distribute the loss immediately after that i have added to the Back bet before the Card 3 have reached it's timelimit and changes to card 4.
If i have not added (meaning the odds is lower then the first back bet) i ofcourse want to green up or distribute the loss as well.


Grateful for any help.

Regards / JoLi




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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #1 on: 02 Sep 2011, 13:32 »
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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #2 on: 05 Sep 2011, 13:24 »
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Please find triggers file attached.


Thank you. Very kind of you. I will test it during the day and come back to you whether it worked as i hoped for or not.

Once again: Thank you   :D

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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #3 on: 05 Sep 2011, 19:06 »
WellDoneSoft:

I'm sorry but it doesn't work as i hoped it would.

Perheps my explanaition was a little bit messy. Please let my explain step by step. And i hope you can help me after that.

1. If card 6 or 10 comes up in Round 2 ('Start Card') we back 'Card 6 or further'.
- The odds of Backing 'Card 6 or further' is:

2. In Round 3 if the odds have increased i back 'Card 6 or further' again.
- This will make my average back odds higher

3. In Round 3... and this is VERY IMPORTANT: After that i have completed step 2 (backing 'Card 6 or further' again.) i want to green up/distribute the loss.
- Remeber that the green up/distribute the loss shall green up/distribute the loss for both Step 1 and Step 2 in one move.



It is this third step that i have had difficulties to make.... My theory is that since both the back and the green up occur in round three there need to be some time-slippage between the two bets.
I belivie that because the backing and laying in round 3 goes so very fast the program or/and the market can register that there's double amount to green out for the lay bet.







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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #4 on: 05 Sep 2011, 20:29 »
With what you describe, surely there is no point in placing the second back bet, since when you green-up you will immediately lose the spread between the back and lay prices. as it is in the same round.

So you might as well just green-up the first bet.

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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #5 on: 06 Sep 2011, 14:08 »
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With what you describe, surely there is no point in placing the second back bet, since when you green-up you will immediately lose the spread between the back and lay prices. as it is in the same round.

So you might as well just green-up the first bet.

Rubold: I don't think you fully understand the concept, which of course can't be understood since this is just 1 part of 5 in my strategy. But this is the part i having trouble with.

But i see that you also don't see the benifit with this action. So i will explain to you.

If number 6 or 10 comes out first the odds for 'Card 6 or further' will allways (99%) be 6.48
Let's now say that we back 100 on that odds.
We can win: 548
We can lose: -100
So we risk 100% of our stake.

Now let's say that a card comes up in round 3 were the back odds are 7.2 and the lay odds are 7.4.

Accordingly to your theory you want to distribute the loss here at once.

Well... Then we need to stake 87.56 to get a equal loss no matter what the outcome will be.
This will get a percentage loss of: 6.63% of our totalt stake in the game.

But if we do as i will do. Meaning we add more to the back. Well then we get the following maths:

Another 100 @ 7.2.
Total we can win is: 548 on the first back and 620 on the second back. Total: 1168
Calculating that should allready here give you some hint of what's coming up....

1168 in profit staking 100 in 2 different rounds is the same as if we would have staked 200 in one single round backing on a odds of 6.84.
As you might see this odds is bigger then 6.48.

If we calculate what we need to lay to get equal loss no matter what the outcome will be we get that we need to lay: 184.86.
Thst would result in a loss no matter what the outcome would be to a: -15.13

This will get a percentage loss of: 3.93% of our totalt stake in the game.
I hope you understand better now.

If not don't hesitate to post again and i will try explain in another way.

But as said.... this is just 1 part of 5 in my strategy in this way of adding back alone might not be the way to profit.

Regards / JoLi














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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #6 on: 06 Sep 2011, 15:14 »

This will get a percentage loss of: 3.93% of our totalt stake in the game.
I hope you understand better now.


Yes, but your total stake is doubled, so the loss is greater by adding the second back bet.

Every time you back and lay on the same  selection in the same round you will lose money. unless the odds move in your favour, which is extremely unlikely.















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Re: Need help with adding back bet. HiLo turbo.
« Reply #7 on: 07 Sep 2011, 09:39 »
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Yes, but your total stake is doubled, so the loss is greater by adding the second back bet.

Every time you back and lay on the same  selection in the same round you will lose money. unless the odds move in your favour, which is extremely unlikely.


True. But as said: 1/5 of the whole strategy and this adding is far far far from mainstrategy so no need to worry.

Regards / JoLi

 

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