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Want to know if this trigger is doable
« on: 14 Nov 2010, 13:56 »
Hello,
Guys i want to ask you something.

Can i do something like this with trigger function?

I select a horse and tell him to auto bet a lay immediately when market goes in-play, asking an odd based on his BSP.

Example:

I check a horse X and tell him to auto place a lay bet when market goes in play, asking the price (BetfairStartingPrice *90%).
If BSP were 10 i want to ask price 9 in-play very fast.

Guys thanks for reading, i hope i made myself clear.
Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks!


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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #1 on: 14 Nov 2010, 15:04 »
hi
you can set a trigger to bet at any time before or inplay using betfair sp as a sp bet or as a condition within the trigger, but the bot will wait for the odds to be within your setting, or you can place a bet manualy using the ladder screen and it will place the bet to get matched as and when the odds move.


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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #2 on: 14 Nov 2010, 15:09 »
Thank you for your response mcbee!

A algorithm will be like this:

#1Test market in-play
a)Yes
Place LAY Bet with Stake 10 at ODD BSP*(0.80).
If it get matched ok, it not still ok :).

b)No
goto #1

At first i wanted to get the ISP odd, but i don't know how...so i need something with 0.80 - 0.90 * BSP to get near the ISP.

I want to be sure it works before i purchase marketfeederpro.


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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #3 on: 14 Nov 2010, 16:24 »

If you are just wanting to place a lay bet at 90% of SP, it's simple, if you want actual SP then that's simple as well, I can't work out what you are asking for?

Take the 2 week free trial and have a play, it will be a lot clearer then....

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #4 on: 14 Nov 2010, 16:45 »
Hi Cyraxo

This seems to me to be quite straightforward using something like the following trigger:

ACTION: cancel then lay
PRICE: actual_sp*0.80
AMOUNT:10
(MARKETS/SELECTIONS as reqd by you)
MARKET STATUS: in play
EXECUTE: no more often than ?s

You'd have to make sure that MFP had sufficent time to recognize that the bet maybe matched before placing another bet .For this you'd need to select appropriate execute rate/market refresh rates/bet info update rates/cancel special options/trigger conditions.

As Demon says take the trial and have a go.

MFP is a fantastic piece of software capable of enabling excel beginners (like me!) to automate complex betting scenarios.

Phil

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #5 on: 14 Nov 2010, 16:59 »
Ok i had write this before drphil writed:

A better example is this:

Today:
Cheltenham - Sunday 14th November 2010   18:00  

Let say i had picked this horse: Theatrical Star.
His BSP was 8.98.
My objective is to lay him at a close ISP Price, so i need like 0.90 - 0.85 * BSP.

Well i need the trigger to place a in-play bet, just when the market goes in play... asking the odd 8.98*0.9=8.08 [8.10], and hopefully someone back it at 8.10 and i get my lay at a close ISP price.

And i added this after reading that

Yes i think it's better to get the trial and try it.
I've just asked for trial now, i wait the e-mail.

I've got many many ideas but i don't think i will be able to do it with trigger.
For example stats said that in the last years when the BSP is between 2.00 and 3.00, the ISP is with ~9% lower...while when the BSP is between and 10.00 - 11.00 the IPS si with ~23% lower.

So a perfect scenario with me is to compare actual_sp with some values with (IF).

But because i think this is not possible i will take the 0.85*actual_sp.

I don't get it with the EXECUTE. This is not a trading system, i mean i will not back after lay for a green profit. I just lay, and i try to lay at price of ISP. Simple.
I just want to hang out the odd (actual_sp*0.85) and that's it.
If i get matched ok, if i don't still ok..better luck next time.

Damn i don't know if i make myself clear :), i am sorry if i don't.

Kind regards,
Chris


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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #6 on: 14 Nov 2010, 17:23 »
I've just installed and let's see if i get it right.

In 25 minutes this soccer game will begin : Dinamo Buc - Univ Craiova.

As soon the game start i want to lay Dinamo Buc at (Actual_SP*0.85).

ACTION - CANCEL THEN LAY
MARKET - SOCCER GAMES
MARKET STATUS - IN-PLAY
PRICE - ACTUAL_SP*0.85
EXECUTE - ONCE PER MARKET
SELECTIONS - ALL SELECTIONS
AMMOUND - 5
AT IN PLAY - CANCEL
CONDITIONS ARE MET:
Any selections price is between 2 and 10;
and fitting selection name is equal to Dinamo

:D
any help will be appreciated

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #7 on: 14 Nov 2010, 17:43 »
Yes, your right about the EXECUTE setting - once per market.

But now I'm confused! I thought we were talking about racing which was what my comments about fast responses were aimed at.

I've never bet on soccer -whats actual_sp in a soccer match?

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #8 on: 14 Nov 2010, 17:51 »
It was just an example.

I mean the price will selection have when the market goes in-play.

YOU ARE RIGHT, THE TRIGGER WILL ONLY BE USED IN RACES.

But as the races are over today i wanted to test it on something else :)

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #9 on: 14 Nov 2010, 18:10 »
Example of how i will bet tomorrow manually:
Race: Leic 15th Nov - 15:20 2m7f Hcap Chs
Selection: Captain Smoothy

I wait for the market to go in play, and i lay as fast as i can the actual_sp/1.1 of that selection.
Often i get my bet matched, but not all times.

Now i was thinking for the trigger to the job for me:

Action: Lay
Markets: Horse Races
Market Status: In-Play
Price: actual_sp/1.1
Amount: 10
Execute: once per market
Selections: All Selections
Conditions are met: Selection name is Captain Smoothy.

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #10 on: 14 Nov 2010, 20:12 »
Hi

Before you are disappointed tomorrow please fix Price and change to ... Price: r_ticks(actual_sp/1.1, -1)

20 / 1.1 = 18.18 ... and betfair will not accept this bet .. r_ticks of -1 will give you the next low betfair price tick which is 18!

I would also recommend changing amount to say 100/actual_sp ... this way your risk will be more or less even across all selections .. otherwise your book will be a mess with HUGE liability on the outsiders.
Further more try adding a cancel trigger to cancel all unmatched bets after 20 or 30 seconds.

I have also thought about this .. so there must be people doing it already ... good luck.
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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #11 on: 14 Nov 2010, 20:43 »
1oser thank you for advice!!!

I'll try tomorrow on races...

btw...is there any way to place a bet under 2 E with marketfeeder :|?

btw2...the unmatched bet will cancel itself when the in-play is over, right...?

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #12 on: 15 Nov 2010, 06:39 »
hi ... check in the settings, you need to tick allow small bets and you can place small bets.

Yes, unmatched bets will cancel themselves once the market is suspended.
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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #13 on: 15 Nov 2010, 11:08 »
Thank you again 1oser, you've helped me so much :)

I've successfully made some simple triggers to work  8)..like lay all favorites under 20 odd, back all second favorites with odd >2 etc.

And it worked with small bets too.

One last problem i have to solve and i will purchase because it does exactly what i need to.

The problem is with the pop-up for confirmation with trigger.
I don't want to press "Yes" all times to place bet.
Because i have like 4-7 horse / day to lay and maybe i won't be home when i leave the trigger open.
So i need to place the bets without confirmation...
I don't see any options to disable in Settings - Trigger Options...
Anyone know about this :| ?

Thank you guys for helping me  :-*  ;)

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Re: Want to know if this trigger is doable
« Reply #14 on: 15 Nov 2010, 11:29 »
hi
to cancel confirmations go to the setting option at the top right of the bot screen,then general options then the 4th tick box down the top left of the screen is what you should un tick.
also so that you are safe from betfair charges, go to the top right of the bot screen and press the graph icon, then set the request limit to 15 and press apply.
also don't forget to use the monitor x mins before the off option in the settings screen under monitoring options.


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